"To be able to say, yeah, I get it. It's tough, right? It's a hard spot to be in, to be there, and it's actually pretty typical. It's not a sign you're doing it wrong. It's not just you."

Karen & Paul discuss how individuals in corporate and community settings often feel isolated in their challenges, thinking it's just them.  

They emphasize the importance of normalizing these feelings by sharing and surfacing common problems in structured spaces. This reduces shame and anxiety, making it easier to address issues collaboratively. They suggest that managers and community members can create environments where these discussions can take place.