"If you can get somebody who will listen with you, read with you, talk with you, explore with you along these same kinds of things, your odds go up dramatically for actually making a difference in your organization."

Karen & Paul talk about the benefits of having a 'learning buddy' when working on relational skills and collaborative practices. They highlight that while learning alone can provide some insights, collaborating with a small group can significantly enhance the learning process through shared reflection, feedback, and combined efforts.