In this episode of Simply Offensive, Phillip Wylie interviews Dahvid Schloss, a cybersecurity expert and the emulated mob boss of emulated criminals. They discuss Dahvid's background in the military and cybersecurity, the differences between red teaming and pen testing, the importance of red teaming in understanding real risks, and the role of purple teaming in improving security practices. They also delve into the significance of tooling in adversarial emulation, the planning involved in red team operations, and the impact of AI on red teaming. The conversation concludes with Dahvid sharing insights on how to get started in adversarial emulation and the future of cybersecurity.

Connect with Dahvid:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/dahvidschloss/⁠

https://emulatedcriminals.com/

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Connect with your host, Phillip Wylie:

LinkedIn: ⁠https://linkedin.com/in/phillipwylie⁠

YouTube: ⁠https://youtube.com/@PhillipWylie

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Presented by Suzu Labs

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Chapters

00:00 Introduction to David Schloss

02:02 David's Background and Career Path

03:44 Understanding Red Teaming vs. Pen Testing

07:40 Time Requirements for Testing

10:31 The Importance of Undetected Operations

12:19 Practicing Incident Response

15:52 The Role of Purple Teaming

18:12 Tooling in Adversarial Emulation

22:03 Planning Red Team Operations

24:20 Getting Started in Adversarial Emulation

26:03 AI's Impact on Red Teaming

31:07 Closing Thoughts and Future Projects

32:49 Outro