Lørdag den 16. juli talte jeg med Niels Jespersen, chefredaktør for Netavisen Pio og tidligere konstabel i Afghanistan. Vi taler om den internationale magtbalance med fokus på, hvorfor Ukraine er blevet et offer for Vestens mislykkedes krige i Mellemøsten. 
Lyt med og bliv klogere. 
Link til DR-klip med Niels: <a href='https://www.facebook.com/Debatten/videos/546050170673572/'>https://www.facebook.com/Debatten/videos/546050170673572/</a>

Lørdag den 16. juli talte jeg med Niels Jespersen, chefredaktør for Netavisen Pio og tidligere konstabel i Afghanistan. Vi taler om den internationale magtbalance med fokus på, hvorfor Ukraine er blevet et offer for Vestens mislykkedes krige i Mellemøsten. Lyt med og bliv klogere. Link til DR-klip med Niels: https://www.facebook.com/Debatten/videos/546050170673572/

Lørdag den 16. juli talte jeg med Niels Jespersen, chefredaktør for Netavisen Pio og tidligere konstabel i Afghanistan. Vi taler om den internationale magtbalance med fokus på, hvorfor Ukraine er blevet et offer for Vestens mislykkedes krige i Mellemøsten.&nbsp;
Lyt med og bliv klogere.&nbsp;
Link til DR-klip med Niels: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/Debatten/videos/546050170673572/" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.facebook.com/Debatten/videos/546050170673572/</a>&nbsp;

En samtale med Niels Jespersen

When I started the conversation series ”Ukraine - History in the Making” I could have never imagined where this journey would lead me. It all started in March 2023 after I got home from an exchange stay in Chile and felt, that I had to do more for Ukraine, than what I did on my social media accounts and on the streets in the spring and summer of 2022. 

I think most of us remember that initial period after Ruzzia’s the full-scale invasion of Ukraine. Speaking from a European/Danish point of view it was a time of big fear, desperation and uncertainty, but also a time of high hopes, energy and big solidarity. In the very first conversation of the show with Veronika Netrebenko, she says the following about the feelings of Ukrainians during the Maidan Revolution: ”We understood we gotta fight for it, and it was something totally different, we felt different, we felt that we need to fight for it”. To a certain degree I believe you can say the same about what happened within the hearts and minds of Europeans after Ruzzia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine. We also felt different, and I also thinkt that we immediately understood that the time of ”peace” was over, but our problem is, that we still dont want to accept it. 

I realised when I got home from Chile before the spring of 2023, just how far we were from accepting the fact, that we have to stand up, both for Ukraine and for ourselves, much more than what we like to make ourselves believe we are doing and have done. The energy from 2022 was already gone the following year, solidarity declarations towards Ukraine went from many to few and the war became much less prevalent in news headlines. 

Because of this development concerning our collective sentiment towards Ukraine, I decided that the best way to help Ukraine would be to start a conversation series in which I spoke with Ukrainians, experts or politicians in English and Danish. I wanted Ukranians to have a platform from which they could tell their story, I wanted experts to come on and explain my listeners and I why Ukraine is existentially important. And I wanted politicians to come on, because they have the power to do things and the freedom to speak much more clearly about the subject than what many experts can do. 

All this took me on a journey I could have never imagined. I could highlight almost all conversations and experiences, but let me share two things: I’ll NEVER(!!!) forget the Ukrainians I spoke with, whose families had to stay in now temporarily occupied parts of Ukraine, where they are, in some cases subject to brutal oppression and torture, and I will also NEVER forget my own trip to Ukraine in February 2024, that came about after I spoke with Jens Alstrup, Chairman of the Danish Organisation, Freedom for Ukraine. 

The last thing I started with the podcast was a specific ”Ukraine History Series” within the broader show in which me and the team i gathered present the history of Ukraine over 10-15 episodes. We well get back to that as soon as I, the host Emil, have figured out my general professional situation after finishing my education in February 2025.

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When I started the conversation series ”Ukraine - History in the Making” I could have never imagined where this journey would lead me. It all started in March 2023 after I got home from an exchange stay in Chile and felt, that I had to do more for Ukraine, than what I did on my social media accounts and on the streets in the spring and summer of 2022. I think most of us remember that initial period after Ruzzia’s the full-scale invasion of Ukraine. Speaking from a European/Danish point of view it was a time of big fear, desperation and uncertainty, but also a time of high hopes, energy and big solidarity. In the very first conversation of the show with Veronika Netrebenko, she says the following about the feelings of Ukrainians during the Maidan Revolution: ”We understood we gotta fight for it, and it was something totally different, we felt different, we felt that we need to fight for it”. To a certain degree I believe you can say the same about what happened within the hearts and minds of Europeans after Ruzzia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine. We also felt different, and I also thinkt that we immediately understood that the time of ”peace” was over, but our problem is, that we still dont want to accept it. I realised when I got home from Chile before the spring of 2023, just how far we were from accepting the fact, that we have to stand up, both for Ukraine and for ourselves, much more than what we like to make ourselves believe we are doing and have done. The energy from 2022 was already gone the following year, solidarity declarations towards Ukraine went from many to few and the war became much less prevalent in news headlines. Because of this development concerning our collective sentiment towards Ukraine, I decided that the best way to help Ukraine would be to start a conversation series in which I spoke with Ukrainians, experts or politicians in English and Danish. I wanted Ukranians to have a platform from which they could tell their story, I wanted experts to come on and explain my listeners and I why Ukraine is existentially important. And I wanted politicians to come on, because they have the power to do things and the freedom to speak much more clearly about the subject than what many experts can do. All this took me on a journey I could have never imagined. I could highlight almost all conversations and experiences, but let me share two things: I’ll NEVER(!!!) forget the Ukrainians I spoke with, whose families had to stay in now temporarily occupied parts of Ukraine, where they are, in some cases subject to brutal oppression and torture, and I will also NEVER forget my own trip to Ukraine in February 2024, that came about after I spoke with Jens Alstrup, Chairman of the Danish Organisation, Freedom for Ukraine. The last thing I started with the podcast was a specific ”Ukraine History Series” within the broader show in which me and the team i gathered present the history of Ukraine over 10-15 episodes. We well get back to that as soon as I, the host Emil, have figured out my general professional situation after finishing my education in February 2025.

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