In our latest episode, I sit down with BARDO Consulting’s co‑founders, Kacy Silverstein and Holly Ryan, to explore how behavioral health patterns can quietly enable- or disrupt- decision‑making, relationships, and legacy in ultra‑high‑net‑worth families. Drawing on decades of clinical experience in trauma, addiction, and family systems work, Kacy and Holly share how patterns like avoidance, over‑functioning, and secrecy show up around wealth, and what families and advisors can do to navigate high‑stakes transitions with more honesty and intention. If you work with complex families, or are part of one, this conversation offers practical language, tools, and hope for making the “messy middle” of change a little more manageable and a lot more meaningful.

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