In this conversation, Richard and Kathy discuss the importance of celebrating the Christmas season while navigating family dynamics, particularly with challenging relatives. They reflect on the upcoming New Year and the significance of approaching it with a heart open to God's guidance. The discussion shifts to the theme of deception, both in spiritual contexts and the political landscape, emphasizing the need for discernment among believers. They explore scriptural insights on deception and the importance of being aware of the truth as they prepare for the future.

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