Jeff and Ben riff briefly on great heavy riffs.  But the real riffing is in the expansive dialogue that takes them from Slayer to the great jazz imprint ECM records and beyond.  In the second half, they deep dive into the great Steve Von Till's most recent records No Wilderness Deep Enough and its ambient companion A Deep and Endless Wilderness.  Both Jeff and Ben hold Steve's music in great esteem. Indeed, it is a true gift in their respective lives.

Show notes on bands discussed and played in this episode:

Steve Von Till - No Wilderness Deep Enough [Full] (2020) - experimental

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nREf_c9xW9Y

Steve Von Till - A Deep Voiceless Wilderness [Full] (2021) experimental

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWTppxmFggk&t=1812s

Laraaji - Ambient 3-Day of Radiance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMBNKmZgs_Y

"In the Absence of Matter" by UADA 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0X2WqrAEkRU

Opening Riff to "Fight Fire with Fire" by Metallica

ICE-T interview clips from

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiitaegUUbo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67v0YfLyywE

Other artists mentioned: Formicide, Meliah Rage, All Out War, Brian Eno, King Crimson (and many others)