Dan is joined by renowned South African cricket journalist and author Luke Alfred as they preview the upcoming first Test between South Africa and England kicking off at the Home of Cricket on Thursday.

Each makes a counter argument for the inclusion of youth but agree that things are not entirely rosy with the Proteas.

They also try and make sens of the coaching debacle, unpack some of highlights of the Women's World Cup and marvel at Dane van Niekerk's return of 4-0 against the West Indies.

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