Judge Len Edwards (ret.) and Judge Ernestine Gray (ret.) join the podcast to discuss reasonable efforts. The key takeaways of the episode are:

1) Understanding the importance of reasonable efforts

2) Discussing the challenges with making no reasonable efforts findings

3) Clarifying the guidance provided in the Enhanced Resource Guidelines and

4) Discussing the need and motivation to write the book Reasonable Efforts: A Judicial Perspective (1st and 2nd Edition).

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