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In this episode, I sit down with Chetan Desai, a Principal Product Manager on the Microsoft Identity Governance team. We dive deep into a side of Entra that many admins never see: the critical "first mile problem" of getting identities into your system in the first place.
We talk about the evolution from on-prem scripts and MIM to specific connectors for Workday and SuccessFactors and then to the new powerful, generic API-driven approach that can handle any HR system and the architectural decisions behind it. Chetan also gives us a masterclass on how the provisioning engine differs from the Graph API and provides advice for anyone looking to migrate from a legacy Identity Governance and Administration (IGA) solution.
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About Chetan Desai
Chetan Desai is a Principal Product Manager at Microsoft on the Entra team. For the past seven years, he has been a core part of the Entra Identity Governance and Provisioning team. Before his time at Microsoft, Chetan spent 17 years in consulting within the identity and access management domain , bringing a wealth of real-world deployment and integration experience to his product management role.
๐ Related Links
* Application and HR provisioning documentation
* Provisioning with SCIM
* API-driven inbound provisioning concepts
๐ Chapters
00:34 The "First Mile Problem" in Identity
04:51 From AD Sync to HR-Driven Provisioning
09:52 The Entra Provisioning Service Architecture
16:17 Hybrid vs. Cloud-Only Identity Flows
19:17 Beyond Workday: The Need for a Generic Connector
27:43 The Great Debate: CSV vs. SQL vs. API
35:34 Provisioning API vs. Graph API: What's the Difference?
43:24 The Latest Evolution: Custom Security Attributes
49:26 Advice for Migrating to Modern IGA
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In this episode, I sit down with Chetan Desai, a Principal Product Manager on the Microsoft Identity Governance team. We dive deep into a side of Entra that many admins never see: the critical "first mile problem" of getting identities into your system in the first place.
We talk about the evolution from on-prem scripts and MIM to specific connectors for Workday and SuccessFactors and then to the new powerful, generic API-driven approach that can handle any HR system and the architectural decisions behind it. Chetan also gives us a masterclass on how the provisioning engine differs from the Graph API and provides advice for anyone looking to migrate from a legacy Identity Governance and Administration (IGA) solution.
Subscribe with your favorite podcast player or watch on YouTube ๐
About Chetan Desai
Chetan Desai is a Principal Product Manager at Microsoft on the Entra team. For the past seven years, he has been a core part of the Entra Identity Governance and Provisioning team. Before his time at Microsoft, Chetan spent 17 years in consulting within the identity and access management domain , bringing a wealth of real-world deployment and integration experience to his product management role.
๐ Related Links
* Application and HR provisioning documentation
* Provisioning with SCIM
* API-driven inbound provisioning concepts
๐ Chapters
00:34 The "First Mile Problem" in Identity
04:51 From AD Sync to HR-Driven Provisioning
09:52 The Entra Provisioning Service Architecture
16:17 Hybrid vs. Cloud-Only Identity Flows
19:17 Beyond Workday: The Need for a Generic Connector
27:43 The Great Debate: CSV vs. SQL vs. API
35:34 Provisioning API vs. Graph API: What's the Difference?
43:24 The Latest Evolution: Custom Security Attributes
49:26 Advice for Migrating to Modern IGA
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๐บ YouTube โ https://entra.chat/youtube
๐บ Spotify โ https://entra.chat/spotify
๐ง Overcast โ https://entra.chat/overcast
๐ง Pocketcast โ https://entra.chat/pocketcast
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