This week, Kam Raslan speaks to journalist, Kean Wong and ecologist and writer of macaranga.org, Law Yao Hua. In conjunction with World Environment Day, they discuss everything about the environment. Kam begins with the topic of clearing animals for the environment, for example, building cities. Although the hunting activity started way back when, he is in a dilemma of being a beneficiary and complicit of that slaughter. Then, Kean Wong talks about the Australian environment catastrophe which is sadly still ongoing. Finally, Law Yao Hua continues with convenience vs the environment. Are we willing to make the sacrifice?