On this Heard Tell Good Talks our guest is Ethan Brown of The Sweaty Penguine Podcast who joins to talk about the rash of forest fires, the narrative about how climate change does and doesn't affect them, and how most forrest fires are made worse by bad policy, bad conservation, and folks sometimes meaning well but not understand how the environment really works. Plus, Ethan explains how headlines about forrest fires should be an opportunity to talk practical environmentalism at the local level, not just buzzwords thrown around the internet.

All that and more on this episode of Heard Tell.

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