In this conversation, AJ and Coleman discuss the Christmas story as told in the books of Matthew and Luke. They explore the significance of the birth of Jesus, the role of Joseph, the visit of the wise men, and the shepherds. They emphasize the inclusivity of God's grace and the importance of recognizing our need for salvation. The conversation highlights the message that Christ has come for all people, regardless of their background or past. This part of the conversation explores the themes of the gospel for believers and unbelievers, the earthiness of the Christmas story, the historical grounding of Luke's account, the humility of God in the incarnation, the name Emmanuel, the second advent and the return of Christ, the accuracy of translations and censuses, the importance of singing theologically accurate songs, the impact of songs on our theology and emotions, and the significance of Christmas hymns.

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