In this episode, Duke Dennis walks us through the bold mission to bring Zig Ziglar’s story to the big screen — from securing life rights to raising capital and packaging real Hollywood talent. What starts as a lifelong dream turns into a masterclass in networking, persistence, and understanding investors.

Then the conversation shifts back to Bolder, where Paul shares the real challenges of running an early-stage business: soaring fixed costs, marketing missteps, cash-flow pressure, and the uphill battle of staying alive long enough to grow.

Two very different journeys, one shared theme: big vision demands bigger execution.