In today's episode, Jan interviews Jason Kirton who's the Director of Engineering at Dispatch, which is a scale-up that enables businesses to order a courier directly from the driver.

We're going to discuss why Jason joined Dispatch, how he thinks about outsourcing software development and organizing his teams in a scale-up mode, and how did COVID-19 impact their industry.

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