Big software projects are hard to estimate. Turns out, the same goes for buildings. Structural engineer Erica Flannery talks about estimates, budgets, and how buildings really get made. Hint: when a mommy and daddy building really love each other... If you think it's going to be a dry episode, it starts getting a "chippy" early, a little punchy at 30 minutes, and by 45 minutes it's an all out free-for-all. Also: Jorge says code coverage sucks. Metaphors are rarely perfect, especially when engineers are involved. Jorge: "I wasn't actually IN the dumpster" Erica: "Just your face?"

Picks of the week:
* Erica: Weber gas grills
* Jorge: Typerdrummer.com
* Lee: “The Failure of Agile” by Andy Hunt
“The Pragmatic Programmer” by Andy Hunt and David Thomas