Join hosts Pat and Steph on "We're Gonna Make It, Right?" as they delve into the real challenges and triumphs of creative entrepreneurship.

"Everything is Lava" unpacks the gritty details of freelancing and running a business, from mastering contracts and managing difficult clients to the importance of continuous personal development and community support.

Whether you're a seasoned entrepreneur or just starting your journey, this podcast offers practical advice, personal stories, and a supportive community to help you navigate the creative industry. Tune in to learn, share, and grow with Pat and Steph. Subscribe now and become part of our creative community.