In this episode, I chat with Mike about the evolution his agency, Second Melody, has taken in the 17 years it’s existed. We cover things like when to let an employee go, fighting the niche, saying no to clients, elevating employees as a leader, and the competitive nature of an agency owner.

Mike Graham is the founder and CEO of Second Melody, a branding studio working with organizations to uncover the accurate, ownable, and inclusive narratives that help tell their stories and drive growth.

Connect with Mike and listen to his mix tape at www.secondmelody.com.