Does your spouse need a break? Do YOU need a break? In today's podcast, we talk about what time looked like for us before and after kids, and what we've intentionally made time for to keep ourselves and each other from feeling like we're losing it. 😂

We also cover that time we had a kid, how Kirsten got sucked back into a classic cult fiction series, and why this podcast could end up being a once a year thing.

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