In a world of aesthetically pleasing coffee shops, instagram models and the feeling to always ‘look the part’ - in todays episode we’re breaking down the definition of ‘perfect’ and what it means to us. Can we really obtain perfection? And maybe the better question is… do we even want to?

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So grab a cup of coffee or glass of wine and join us for this in depth conversation on perfectionism, and learn how we grew even closer in our friendship when one of got half-naked on an airplane.