What you will hear in this episode:

Meet Nathan and Justine. (0:03)

How did you get into the ministry? (3:06)

Growing up in ministry. (8:34)

Las Vegas and materialism. (14:34)

How do you balance materialism and financial stability? (20:08)

How do you address the emptiness? (25:04)

How to choose joy over happiness? (28:52)

How social media compares us to others. (33:48)

The difference between joy and happiness. (37:37)