In this episode, Candise Shanbron and Justin Cernitz interview each other. Candise's perspective is shaped by her belief in the need for authentic and candid conversations about the challenges faced in business and relationships. This belief stems from her dissatisfaction with self-help books’ lack of relatability and practicality. On the other hand, Justin views the podcast as a platform for sharing personal experiences and lessons learned, helping others navigate the complexities of these areas. Both hosts value the importance of multiple perspectives, including a female perspective, and plan to compile the best takeaways from their podcast into a book.

Here are the takeaways from this episode:

Quotes:

"I always pride myself of never checking the box and going through the motions in anything in life and really doing things with intention and being real earnest about it and solving problems and like I said, not going through the motions and checking the boxes." - Candise Shanbron

"If you ignore the possibility of obstacles and pitfalls, you're never going to grow or succeed because you're always going to think that it's just supposed to go one way. And if you don't recognize that there are those issues out there, you're never going to be able to figure out how to work around them." - Justin Cernitz

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