Welcome to Adventures with Alice & Bob! Today our hosts Karl and James are joined by Sami Laiho to talk about how he became one of the leading public speakers in the world of Microsoft topics, how choosing your words wisely can convince people to take security seriously, and how he dealt with the Vastaamo attack, the largest crime ever committed in Finland.

You can find Sami Laiho's services at https://samilaiho.com/, and buy his JÄRJESTELMÄNVALVOJA merch at https://www.zazzle.com/store/adminize.

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