How did the Catholic Church become a place that abusers could hide in? Were men who were prone to abuse drawn to the priesthood? In 2002, the Catholic bishops commissioned a report on clergy sexual abuse from the John Jay College of Criminal Justice. Karna talks with Margaret Smith, who worked on that report, as well as Msgr. Steven Rossetti, who helped to draft the Dallas Charter, Fr. Paul Scalia, George Weigel, and others.