Is America a nation like any other, defined by a people, a place, and a shared history? Or is America simply an idea, a creed that anyone can adopt? In this episode, Dan McCarthy challenges the popular notion of the United States as a purely “creedal nation,” arguing that it is a modern innovation and a false alternative to both ethno-nationalism and rooted national identity.

Drawing on the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and the foreign policy arguments of the Federalist Papers, McCarthy explains how the Founding understood America as “one people” united not only by principles, but by sovereignty, territory, and a common political life. Nationhood, he argues, is not just abstract philosophy, but the real defense and inheritance of a self-governing people.

The discussion then turns to the Cold War and the rise of ideological universalism, when America increasingly came to define itself in opposition to the Soviet Union as an “idea” rather than a historic nation. As the United States approaches its 250th anniversary, McCarthy calls for a renewed understanding of American citizenship, tradition, and national self-government rooted in history rather than abstraction.