Dr. Barker is the President of Southern Wesleyan University in South Carolina and joins us today to talk about current challenges in higher education and the importance of an education that teaches values and not just skills. Fun Fact: his home state is West Virginia, so Garrett kicks off this discussion by asking Dr. Barker about his hometown of Clarksburg. Dr. Barker shares stories about the Italian heritage of West Virginia, his time as a military chaplain, and how he came to work in higher education. If you care about the future of post-secondary education and wonder how we got to a place with such a broken system, this is an episode you'll enjoy.

Learn more about Southern Wesleyan and Dr. Barker at https://www.swu.edu/about/who-we-are/our-president/

Garrett Ballengee, Host

President & CEO - @gballeng

Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy

Amanda Kieffer, Executive Producer & Editor

Vice President of Communications & Strategy - @akieffer13

Cardinal Institute for West Virginia Policy

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