Work-life balance - is it even possible? Everyone’s got an opinion, and the issue is almost unavoidable if you run a small business.

Billy Tucker, a no-nonsense Scotsman with an entrepreneurial itch, wrestles with this issue on a daily basis. He’s owner and principal at 57 Signals; a senior executive at Cirrus Media; founder at online startup Yabbit; and a husband and father of four children.

Billy chats with Xero In hosts Rob Stone and Valerie Khoo about how he keeps it all together, what he’s learnt about tackling to-do lists, and the dilemma that is achieving both scale and growth in a business.