Ken Liu is a computer programmer turned lawyer turned science fiction writer. Perhaps best known for his short story collection, "The Paper Menagerie" and his translation of Cixin Liu's "The Three-Body Problem," Liu grounds his stories in questions about what it means to be human, and to be shaped by forces such as family and history. In our pilot, Eugene calls "The Paper Menagerie" a quintessential story of family separation, and in this episode the two chat about Liu's newest short story collection, "The Hidden Girl," and why stories and storytelling are so important.

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