In this conversation, Cynthia and Laura Beth talk with Rev. Dr. Marian Edmonds-Allen about change, healing, and the importance of community in the context of LGBTQ+ advocacy and spirituality. They discuss personal journeys of acceptance, the significance of creating safe spaces, and the challenges faced by LGBTQ+ individuals in faith communities. Marion brings a perspective of optimism and resilience, highlighting the need for allies and the power of love in bridging divides. The conversation emphasizes the importance of navigating trauma, fostering understanding, and celebrating small victories in the ongoing journey toward inclusivity and acceptance.