Feds at the Edge

Ep. 100 Can Federal Technology Leaders Learn From the Tragic Fire at Notre Dame?


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Lessons from episode number one of Feds at the Edge can be applied to the ninety-nine that follow

At first glance, it is an interview about a tragic fire that befell the world-famous Notre Dame Cathedral in 2019; however, looking deeper you will see that the description risk management can be applied to the life of every federal information professional.

The federal government sits on a legacy system that has proven to be successful for decades. The Notre Dame Cathedral was built in 1163. Our federal system is encased in impregnable data centers, much like the limestone of the cathedral.

As evidenced by a plethora of Executive Orders, acknowledgment is given to make changes, like Zero Trust, to reduce risk. During the interview, you will find that the cathedral had a fire protection plan put together by experts. Unfortunately, it was not deployed for fear of the transition to a safer environment was too risky in itself.

From the perspective of a federal project manager, it is a case study of concepts like risk management, probability, and monitoring. What assumptions are you making about a black swan event and your security system?

“During our case study, today, we are going to look at some of the assumptions, factors, and components that shaped the fire protection plan. And that may have ultimately led to its failure.” Dr. Natalie K. Houghtby-Haddon, Associate Director GW CEPL & Assistant Professor, GW College of Professional Studies

“That public tweet occurred before the fire department arrived at Notre Dame” Dr. Natalie K. Houghtby-Haddon, Associate Director GW CEPL & Assistant Professor, GW College of Professional Studies

Petabytes of data and forests of trees: “And it was called that because the wooden beams that made up that attic dated back to the 12th and 13th century, and wood for more than 1300 trees were cut down and used in building that attic.” Dr. Natalie K. Houghtby-Haddon, Associate Director GW CEPL & Assistant Professor, GW College of Professional Studies

Firewalls are standard practice for all computer systems today. “Officials chose not to alter the attic with any modern fire safety measures measures such as sprinklers, or firewalls” Tom Brandt, Chief Risk Officer, U.S. Internal Revenue Service

“What is risk appetite, it's the type and amount of risk that an organization is willing to accept in pursuit of values.” Tom Brandt, Chief Risk Officer, U.S. Internal Revenue Service

Risk Management does not just apply to moving to the hybrid cloud. “So, as you're accepting risk, are you accepting something that's high likelihood? And if it were to occur? Are you accepting something that's high impact?” Alice Miller, Chief Risk Officer, Millennium Challenge Corporation

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