This week I talk with Jerri Scherf of Tulsa Pack Athletics. Episodes with trainers typically revolve around training methods and energy, but this one took a fun turn I did not see coming. We discuss Jerri's Open-Minded approach to training, white supremacy in training, the use of medications for behavior modification in dogs, and how we sometimes act out of desperation when it comes to our dogs. Trust me, I have been there! You can learn more about Jerri and Tulsa Pack Athletics at www.tulsapackathletics.com or on social media @sailorjerrithedogtrainer.

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