The Gen Mess with Tess

Ep 11: Mission: Inclusion Possible - The DEI Double Take


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What if the real reason your team is struggling isn’t just about generational clashes—but about whether your employees feel seen, heard, and valued at work?


On this eye-opening episode of Gen Mess with Tess, host Tess Brigham sits down with Dr. Ryan Warner, award-winning consulting psychologist, military leader, and Fortune 500 organizational strategist. Together, they dig beneath the surface of generational dynamics to reveal the hidden causes of workplace stress and conflict—and show you what truly builds inclusive, high-performing teams.


Key Highlights:

  • Dr. Warner’s riveting journey from college athlete to military psychologist, and how his passion for health and wellness led to a global consulting career.
  • Behind-the-scenes in the military: the surprising generational dynamics and why communication, not just hierarchy, drives team success.
  • The truth about DEI (Diversity, Equity, Inclusion) in 2024: Why performative checkbox initiatives fail and how truly embedding inclusion into daily practice can transform organizations—regardless of what the headlines say.
  • How real inclusion boosts productivity, mental well-being, and innovation—plus why addressing bias and building psychological safety are essential.
  • Actionable advice for leaders who feel overwhelmed: Where to start, how to create more inclusive systems without piling on more work, and why even small changes (like feedback loops and cross-generational mentoring) can make a massive impact.


Connect with the Show: Visit TessBrigham.com or find Dr. Ryan Warner at rcwarnerconsulting.com to learn more about their work and upcoming opportunities.

Don’t let generational misunderstanding or outdated workplace practices hold your team back. Dive into this episode for real strategies—and start cleaning up your “gen mess” today!



Timestamped Overview

00:00 Passion for Health and Education

05:06 Military Leadership and Entrepreneurial Journey

07:56 "Internship Insights and Career Paths"

10:35 "DEI Changes Spark Reflection"

14:24 "Addressing Workplace Generational Challenges"

19:13 Generational Bias in Organizations

23:26 Inclusion's Impact on Workplace Productivity

25:35 Balancing Work Culture and Leadership

27:50 "Mindful Leadership & Inclusion"

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The Gen Mess with TessBy Tess Brigham