You’re listening to Shootin’ the Bull — a podcast by Idaho Department of Fish and Game. From fish squeezers to deer muggers and everyone in between, these are the conversations with the men and women of Idaho Fish and Game.

Hosts Connor Jay Liess (Public Information Specialist) and Tom Talley (Staff Engineer) head up to Mackay to talk with Christian Brown (Mackay Fish Hatchery Manager) and Steve Roberts (Conservation Officer in the Mackay Valley).

Other Topics: Forecasting the Mackay Miners' football season; "re-districted" to the Upper Snake Region; patroling the Snake River corridor; first outdoor podcast; what's so special about Mackay?; commuting alongside seven 12,000-foot peaks; who technically patrols Mount Borah?; patroling the Lost River Range when you're afraid of heights; the limitations of motorized vehicles (and mules); the moment Steve knew he wanted to be a game warden; when a wasted antelope carcass leads to a wasted elk carcass; varying degrees of wildlfie violations; small-town vs. urban game wardens; what kind of calls does a Mackay warden get?; the "naked man at Mackay Reservoir" story; Mackay Reservoir's 4.6-star Google Review; kokanee; wildlife trafficking; putting on your biologist hat; fruit leather; relationships with your trucks; and more.

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