Our listener JC has had quite the roller coaster faith journey ride and he's now at a point where he wonders if heaven is even real. Heaven is the hope that we all have in common as Christians no matter your stripe but how much do we really know about it? And what's with this language about heaven being "up there" and heaven "coming down" - where is that exactly and what does that even mean? Admittedly, we feel like we barely scratched the surface on this episode and we're taking that as a nudge to dig deeper in our journeys. In the meantime, we extend our sincerest condolences to our listener JC who lost his mom shortly after we recorded this episode. In a poignant turn of events, he reports that after seeing the way his mom lived and died he now wants heaven to exist if only to reunite with her someday. We dedicate this episode to her. May she be in a place that is infinitely more wonderful than what we attempted to fathom on this episode.