Today we're unraveling the complex story of Ghislaine Maxwell — socialite, heiress, convicted sex trafficker and now prison camp roomies with someone from Real Housewives who tried to swindle elderly people out of their money. Totally the same. 

Without excusing anything Maxwell chose to do (because crime is a choice), it's important that we try to understand why women in particular are drawn into the recruiter roles in the dark underworld of sex trafficking. 

From power dynamics to psychological conditioning to daddy issues, in order to actually prevent and end human trafficking and sexual abuse, we need to understand the female side of exploitation.

Also, we're on YouTube now! You can see our faces and see our pets! More previous episodes will be uploaded soon. 

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