These days you hear a lot of people complain about any adversity they face, People even shield their kids from it. But look at any successful person and they'll tell you without adversity, without those challenges, they would've never found success. In this episode, Torie Mathis & her cohost Sean talk about the importance of adversity and challenge; in life, business, and for your kids, and how self-made adversity can be a catalyst to great things and tremendous success. And an appreciation for the Oculus.