Daniel from the Netherlands and Softie from the UK join Alyssa for our discussion of Andrzej Sapkowski's Tower of Swallows, Chapter 8. Very important bits include: Kovir's "armed neutrality," whoresons of upright character, the wisdom of 'The Good Book', royal marriages and moral compromises, political doublespeak, espionage, Sheala de Tancarville conspiracy theories, the unseen consequences of power, and "A million bizants?!"

• [0:00] Cold Open
• [1:06] Introduction
• [2:25] Guest Introductions
• [8:12] Chapter Recap
• [9:50] Overall Thoughts
• [19:30] The Illusion of Virtue
• [29:31] The Queen's Moral Compass
• [40:24] Marriage (and the Lodge)
• [47:54] Dijkstra's Mission and Cantarella's Espionage
• [57:15] The Far Future
• [1:10:44] Closing Thoughts
• [1:13:32] Outro
• [1:13:55] End Credits