“Hater of the pod. Long time hater, first time caller.” In this episode, your hosts Martyr (@dragthemartyr) and Cate (@ctepper) catch up about Cate’s busy month of April and Martyr’s new hobby of Pokémon cards. Then they talk about their current interests: The White Lotus and the James Ivory directed film “Maurice” (1987). Later, returning guest Robin Rose Quartz stops by! She tells us about embodying Martyr at the Glam Awards, competing in Miss Fire Island, and angler fish. Plus games galore!

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Cover art: Madeline De Michele - www.madelinedemichele.com

Music: “Club” by Andrew Huang (www.youtube.com/channel/UCdcemy56JtVTrsFIOoqvV8g) under Creative Commons.

Edits by C.Tepper