In this episode, licensed marriage and family therapist Lisa Gray shares practical strategies for maintaining healthy relationships when chronic illness enters the picture—whether you're navigating high-conflict dynamics or learning to communicate through the unique challenges of chronic pain and fatigue.

Lisa reminds us that healthy conflict isn't just about reducing fights—it's also about being brave enough to have the hard conversations chronic illness demands. Her work focuses on teaching couples to stay connected, communicate with empathy, and renegotiate their relationship over and over as illness evolves—because this is chronic, and the adjustments never really end.

Connect with Destiny:  ⁠Instagram⁠ / ⁠Facebook⁠ / ⁠Website⁠

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🤝 RESOURCES & WAYS TO WORK TOGETHER

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🩺 FOR HEALTH PROFESSIONALS

💬 Clinical Consultation

→⁠ ⁠The Mastermind⁠⁠: A free monthly business and clinical consultation group for therapists, PTs, OTs, and RDs specializing in chronic illness. Come think through cases, talk shop, and connect with a community of providers who really get this work.

🎓 Continuing Education

→⁠ ⁠The Chronic Illness Therapists Conference⁠⁠ — 2027: The 2026 conference was just the beginning. We're returning to Atlanta (new venue!) in October 2027 — in person and virtually. Early bird pricing is live now.

→⁠ ⁠Past CE Workshops⁠⁠ Browse past on-demand continuing education workshops in the Skool community. 

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🌊 FOR PEOPLE LIVING WITH CHRONIC ILLNESS

🛋️Therapy:

→⁠ ⁠Therapy Intensives with Destiny⁠⁠: Half-day and full-day intensive therapy sessions are now available for clients in Georgia, Florida, and Colorado. A good option if weekly sessions aren't working for your schedule — or if you want to do deeper work in a shorter window.

🧑‍💻Non-therapy Support Groups/Education

→ ⁠Latest Workshops Here⁠

→⁠ ⁠⁠⁠Welcome to the Waiting Room⁠⁠ is a low-cost membership run by Destiny and guest experts each month, including:

• General support groups, 2–4 Fridays per month at 12 EST

• Sex + Chronic Pain Support Group — biweekly, on Thursdays at 11am EST for those navigating intimacy while living with chronic pain. Facilitated by Jessica Sullivan-Sanchez, LPC, CRC, SEP, a somatic sex therapist with lived experience.

• Monthly community education workshops on topics relevant to life with chronic illness with new expert guests each month

These groups are not therapy and are not a replacement for therapy. Due to ethical guidelines around dual relationships, current therapy clients of Destiny or Angie are not able to join the membership at the same time. If you have questions about whether the membership is the right fit for you, feel free to reach out before joining.

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⚠️ DISCLAIMER

The Chronic Illness Therapists Podcast is for educational and informational purposes only. Nothing shared in this podcast — by Destiny, guests, or anyone else — constitutes medical advice, mental health treatment, or a therapeutic relationship. Listening to this podcast does not create a client-provider relationship of any kind. Always consult with your own qualified healthcare providers before making decisions about your medical care, mental health treatment, or medications. If you are in crisis, please contact the 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988.