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FOR MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS:
đ˘ WEâRE HOSTING A CONFERENCE! Itâll be an IN-PERSON & VIRTUAL event in Atlanta, GA, on MARCH 6&7, 2026!â â â â â REGISTER HERE!â â â â
NON THERAPISTS: SIGN UP FOR DESTINY'S NEXT LIVE WORKSHOP
â â â â â Upcoming Workshops!â â
JOIN DESTINYâS MEMBERSHIP - for folks with chronic pain & illness
â â â â â Join Welcome To The Waiting Roomâ â â â (ongoing support for staying regulated while living with chronic illness - This does not replace therapy, but itâs a great addition to your regular therapy appointments)
Episode summary:
In this episode, licensed marriage and family therapist Lisa Gray shares practical strategies for maintaining healthy relationships when chronic illness enters the pictureâwhether you're navigating high-conflict dynamics or learning to communicate through the unique challenges of chronic pain and fatigue.
In this conversation, we cover:
â Why externalizing chronic illness as a "third partner" helps couples team up against the problem instead of blaming each otherâeven when both partners are grieving in different directions
â How to have scheduled, calm conversations using the speaker-listener framework so you actually understand each other before jumping to problem-solving
â Why intimacy can become even more intimate when you scale back to sensual touch and connectionâand how to navigate those conversations without guilt or pressure
â The importance of the well partner taking care of themselves (and why it's the ill partner's job to encourage that), plus creative solutions for managing household responsibilities as a team
Lisa reminds us that healthy conflict isn't just about reducing fightsâit's also about being brave enough to have the hard conversations chronic illness demands. Her work focuses on teaching couples to stay connected, communicate with empathy, and renegotiate their relationship over and over as illness evolvesâbecause this is chronic, and the adjustments never really end.
MEET DESTINY:â â â Websiteâ â â /â â â Instagramâ â â /â â â BlueSkyâ â â /â â â YouTubeâ â â /â â â TikTokâ â â
MEET GUEST: â â â â â â Websiteâ â / â Instagramâ / Twitter / TikTok
â â â â READ THE BLOG FOR THIS EPISODEâ â
ASK DESTINY ANYTHING
â â â â Submit your questions hereâ â â
FOR YOU, OUR PODCAST LISTENERS:
JOIN DESTINYâS MEMBERSHIP - for folks with chronic pain & illness
â â â â â Join Welcome To The Waiting Roomâ â â â (ongoing support for staying regulated while living with chronic illness - This does not replace therapy, but itâs a great addition to your regular therapy appointments)
FOR MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS:
đ˘ WEâRE HOSTING A CONFERENCE! WOOO! Itâll be an IN-PERSON & VIRTUAL event in Atlanta, GA, on MARCH 6&7, 2026!â â â REGISTER HERE!â â
đď¸ â â â Join The Mastermind!â â â (monthly business and clinical consultation calls for medical professionals specializing in working with patients with chronic illnesses)
đ§ Get Your Client Roadmap For Navigating Complex Trauma and Chronic Illness (specifically for mental health therapists) (COMING SOON-â â â sign up for the waitlistâ â â )
WANT TO SAY THANKS? - Reviews tell the app, âhey, people like this! Show it in the algorithm to more people!â :)
đ â â â Leave a review on Apple Podcastsâ â â
đ˘ â â â Leave a rating on Spotifyâ â â
Disclaimer: Everything we talk about here is just meant to be general education and information. It's not intended as personal mental health or medical advice. If you have any questions related to your unique circumstances, please contact a licensed therapist or medical professional in your state of residence.
By Destiny Davis LPC CRC5
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FOR MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS:
đ˘ WEâRE HOSTING A CONFERENCE! Itâll be an IN-PERSON & VIRTUAL event in Atlanta, GA, on MARCH 6&7, 2026!â â â â â REGISTER HERE!â â â â
NON THERAPISTS: SIGN UP FOR DESTINY'S NEXT LIVE WORKSHOP
â â â â â Upcoming Workshops!â â
JOIN DESTINYâS MEMBERSHIP - for folks with chronic pain & illness
â â â â â Join Welcome To The Waiting Roomâ â â â (ongoing support for staying regulated while living with chronic illness - This does not replace therapy, but itâs a great addition to your regular therapy appointments)
Episode summary:
In this episode, licensed marriage and family therapist Lisa Gray shares practical strategies for maintaining healthy relationships when chronic illness enters the pictureâwhether you're navigating high-conflict dynamics or learning to communicate through the unique challenges of chronic pain and fatigue.
In this conversation, we cover:
â Why externalizing chronic illness as a "third partner" helps couples team up against the problem instead of blaming each otherâeven when both partners are grieving in different directions
â How to have scheduled, calm conversations using the speaker-listener framework so you actually understand each other before jumping to problem-solving
â Why intimacy can become even more intimate when you scale back to sensual touch and connectionâand how to navigate those conversations without guilt or pressure
â The importance of the well partner taking care of themselves (and why it's the ill partner's job to encourage that), plus creative solutions for managing household responsibilities as a team
Lisa reminds us that healthy conflict isn't just about reducing fightsâit's also about being brave enough to have the hard conversations chronic illness demands. Her work focuses on teaching couples to stay connected, communicate with empathy, and renegotiate their relationship over and over as illness evolvesâbecause this is chronic, and the adjustments never really end.
MEET DESTINY:â â â Websiteâ â â /â â â Instagramâ â â /â â â BlueSkyâ â â /â â â YouTubeâ â â /â â â TikTokâ â â
MEET GUEST: â â â â â â Websiteâ â / â Instagramâ / Twitter / TikTok
â â â â READ THE BLOG FOR THIS EPISODEâ â
ASK DESTINY ANYTHING
â â â â Submit your questions hereâ â â
FOR YOU, OUR PODCAST LISTENERS:
JOIN DESTINYâS MEMBERSHIP - for folks with chronic pain & illness
â â â â â Join Welcome To The Waiting Roomâ â â â (ongoing support for staying regulated while living with chronic illness - This does not replace therapy, but itâs a great addition to your regular therapy appointments)
FOR MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS:
đ˘ WEâRE HOSTING A CONFERENCE! WOOO! Itâll be an IN-PERSON & VIRTUAL event in Atlanta, GA, on MARCH 6&7, 2026!â â â REGISTER HERE!â â
đď¸ â â â Join The Mastermind!â â â (monthly business and clinical consultation calls for medical professionals specializing in working with patients with chronic illnesses)
đ§ Get Your Client Roadmap For Navigating Complex Trauma and Chronic Illness (specifically for mental health therapists) (COMING SOON-â â â sign up for the waitlistâ â â )
WANT TO SAY THANKS? - Reviews tell the app, âhey, people like this! Show it in the algorithm to more people!â :)
đ â â â Leave a review on Apple Podcastsâ â â
đ˘ â â â Leave a rating on Spotifyâ â â
Disclaimer: Everything we talk about here is just meant to be general education and information. It's not intended as personal mental health or medical advice. If you have any questions related to your unique circumstances, please contact a licensed therapist or medical professional in your state of residence.

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