Catherine is joined by How to Change the World fan favorite (and our very first guest!) Jeannette Maré, the founder and former Executive Director of Ben's Bells, an organization dedicated to educating about the transformative practice of intentional kindness. Jeannette and Catherine talk about how you can use kindness in your daily work confronting Coronavirus and institutional racism, how it is different than niceness or empathy, and tangible steps you can take today to build your own kindness skillset.