In this episode of The Ministry Exchange, Dr. J. Wendell Mapson Jr. explores Pulpit & Pew: The Sacred Exchange That Gives Life, a teaching on the living covenant between preacher and people that remains central to the Black Church.

With wisdom forged through decades of preaching, Dr. Mapson examines what truly happens in the “preaching moment,” where the Word meets the listener and transformation begins. Drawing on Augustine’s charge to teach, delight, and move, he unpacks how instruction, clarity, and compassion keep preaching alive and effective in every generation.

This conversation explores:

• How instruction anchors preaching amid growing biblical illiteracy
• Why delight and rhetoric matter for attention, clarity, and joy in God
• How movement turns Sunday proclamation into Monday obedience
• The covenant between pulpit and pew and the “rights” both share
• Preaching across generations without losing anyone in the room
• Addressing crisis moments without losing the gospel’s center

For preachers, teachers, and all who love the Church, this episode offers a masterclass in faithful communication where the gospel gives life and both pulpit and pew breathe together.

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