My next guest is Nikki Mehrpoo. She is a nationally recognized leader in AI governance for law practices, known for her practical, ethical, and innovation-focused strategies. Today, she details her Triple-E Protocol and shares key steps for safely leveraging AI in legal work.
Join Nikki Mehrpoo and me as we discuss the following three questions and more!
- Based on your pioneering work with "Govern Before You Automate," what are the top three foundational steps every lawyer should take to implement AI responsibly, and what are the top three mistakes lawyers make with AI?
- What are your top three tips or tricks when using AI in your work?
- When assessing the next AI platform from a service provider, what are the top three questions lawyers should be asking?
In our conversation, we cover the following:
- 00:00:00 – Welcome and guest's background 🌟
- 00:01:00 – Current tech setup and cloud-based workflows ☁️
- 00:02:00 – Privacy and IP management, not client confidentiality 🔐
- 00:03:00 – Document deduplication with Effingo 📄
- 00:04:00 – Hardware: HP Omni Book 7 Laptop, HP monitors, iPhone 💻📱
- 00:05:00 – Efficiency tools: Text Expander, personal workflow shortcuts ⌨️
- 00:06:00 – Balancing technology innovation and risk management ⚖️
- 00:07:00 – Adapting to change, ongoing legal tech education 🧑💻
- 00:08:00 – Triple-E Framework: Educate, Empower, Elevate 🚀
- 00:09:00 – Governance, supervision duties, policy setting 🛡️
- 00:10:00 – Human verification as a standard for all legal AI output 🧑⚖️
- 00:12:00 – Real-world examples: AI hallucinations, bias, and due diligence ⚠️
- 00:13:00 – IT vs. AI expertise, communicating across teams 🛠️
- 00:14:00 – Chief AI Governance Officer, governance in legal innovation 🏛️
- 00:15:00 – Global compliance, EU AI Act, international standards 🌐
- 00:16:00 – Hidden AI in legacy software, policy gaps 🔎
- 00:17:00 – Education as continuous legal responsibility 📚
- 00:18:00 – Better results through prompt engineering 🔤
- 00:19:00 – Verify, verify, verify: never trust without review ✔️
- 00:20:00 – ABA Formal Opinion 512: standards for responsible legal AI 📜
- 00:21:00 – Nikki's Triple-E Protocol, governance best practices 📊
- 00:22:00 – Data origin, bias, and auditability in legal AI systems 🧩
- 00:23:00 – Frameworks for "govern before you automate" in legal workflows 🔒
- 00:24:00 – Importance of internal hosting and zero retention policies 🏢
- 00:25:00 – Maintaining confidentiality with third-party AI and HIPAA compliance 🤫
- 00:26:00 – Where to find Nikki and connect 🌐
Resources
Connect with Nikki Mehrpoo
- Email: [email protected]
- Website: https://governbeforeyouautomate.ai
- Secondary Site: https://igoverai.com
- LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/nikkimehrpoo
Mentioned in the episode
- ABA Formal Opinion 512: https://www.americanbar.org/groups/professional_responsibility/publications/model_rules_of_professional_conduct/
- EU AI Act: https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/policies/regulatory-framework-ai
- GoHighLevel: https://blog.gohighlevel.com/highlevel-101-everything-you-need-to-know/
- Triple-E AI Governance Protocol: https://igoverai.com
Hardware mentioned in the conversation
- HP External Monitors: https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/vp/displays
- HP Omni Book 7 Laptop: https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/vp/Hp_Omnibook_7_Series
- iPhone: https://www.apple.com/iphone/
Software & Cloud Services mentioned in the conversation
- GoHighLevel: https://gohighlevel.com
- Gamma: https://gamma.app
- Effingo: https://effingotech.com/
- Text Expander: https://textexpander.com
- Pixart: https://pixart.ai
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