It's been a crazy couple of weeks in the world. I hope this conversation helps just a little.

Phil and I talk about:

• The importance of keeping an accomplishment list
• Gratitude
• The advantage of "better" or "best"
• His love of perpetual change
• The difference between a failure and a mistake
• The hidden side of musicians like Beyonce and Elton John
• Thoughts on launching a book
• Why Phil blew me off when I met him
• Why LeBron and Leo are two of the best salespeople in the world
• Luck and putting it out there

and much more as you've come to expect.

My first conversation with Phil

As always, thanks for listening!

--JF