The Munsons welcome back OG Munson Warren Hicks alongside 7-time guest Munson Matti Groll—better known online as FlygonHG—for a deep dive into the fascinating, sometimes confounding career of Greta Gerwig. For most of the crew, this episode doubles as a crash course in the Mumblecore movement and Gerwig’s central role in defining it, setting the stage for a career that would eventually take a sharp and surprising turn.

We can’t help but fixate on what the year 2011 did to her acting trajectory with No Strings Attached and Arthur, and after revisiting a large chunk of her filmography, we collectively question whether there’s enough range—either in project choice or performance—for her to truly stand out as an actor. That debate leads us into tracing how those acting decisions likely shaped her later work behind the camera, and how her writing abilities allow certain characters to feel vividly alive even when the performances themselves are understated.

We explore her unmistakable inspiration from Woody Allen and express genuine surprise she hasn’t collaborated more with Wes Anderson. Along the way, we once again find ourselves consulting one of our favorite websites, DoesTheDogDie.com, for two Gerwig films, and we speculate wildly about what her upcoming take on Narnia might look like.

By the end, we’re left wrestling with how to score a career split between acting and directing—and whether those skillsets should even be judged the same way. How does she rank on the Munson Meter? Listen to find out.