What an honor to have one of my dearest friends on the podcast, Ed Enmen! Ed and I have been friends for over 25 years and I'm so grateful for his friendship and ministry. In this episode we have a conversation about..."having conversations".  Ministry can be a lonely place and the past two years has been tough on everyone. Knowing you have someone to share and collaborate with is worth it's weight in gold these days. If you need to smile or laugh this is the episode for you, so go ahead and laugh at us or with us and hopefully we can bring a little joy to your day.  So I hope you stick around as to old friends have a conversation about ministry and friendship.