In this episode, Matt and Sarah describe their experience with orbs - lights in the sky over the Haw River in North Carolina in the fall of 2023 to researchers Joshua Cutcheon and Barbara Fisher, coauthors of a forthcoming book about anomalous lights. The second part of the episode, Sarah continues her discussion with Barbara from Episode 11 (Orbs, Pondered) about what these orbs might be. Email [email protected] to share your hunting and fishing experiences and check out www.thecampfiresedge.com for original art and show notes.