We meet Mel Migrino, an infosec and cybersecurity titan who in late career has pivoted to advocacy. Mel tells us how she got into software development in order to make money, then pivoted to infosec after a friend told her it was an opportunity, before becoming a business leader. She describes the powerful influence of her mentor, a true 'dragon lady' who could see that Mel's technical chops complemented her own strategic and business knowledge. Mel describes her career path and how it has been driven by bordeom: when she feels llike she is no longer learning she moves on. And she talks about how gratitude for her own success motivates her to act as an advocate both for the digitally excluded and for female leaders in cyber security.