What is your relationship with failure? How do you define it? Is it a dead end—or just a detour?

In this episode, Doc and Coach explore the concept of failure—not as something to fear but as a powerful teacher. From personal experiences to professional setbacks, they unpack the lessons learned, the growth gained, and how failure has shaped who they are today.

So tune in, get comfortable, and explore the flip side of success—because sometimes, the L's we take are just the start of a bigger win.