As we experience the pandemic, our business reflects the trying times we face. The full scope of what's to come is not entirely in view, so we have to pay attention to the world around us and the opportunities we can create. The question is if we are living in a world that's burning, how do we stay safe, sain, and secure? My guest Thomas H. Clifton joins us to give us perspective on what he sees and how he's working through the fire.