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🎙️ EP 13:The $12B Unicorn Teaching This Malaysian Founder How to Scale Without Losing His Soul


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This conversation explores the messy middle of entrepreneurship through Ryan Ng’s unique journey of building YouDigital while leading APAC expansion at $12B unicorn Deel. We dive into cultural barriers holding back Southeast Asian professionals, the myth of work-life balance, and what it really takes to build something meaningful while maintaining financial stability.

⏱️ Key Topics Discussed

The Deel Experience (05:00–10:30)

Inside the world’s largest remote company

Scaling across ASEAN’s complex regulatory landscape

From LinkedIn’s “bullet train” to Deel’s “rocket ship”

Managing 24/7 Slack notifications across time zones

The Paiseh Problem (17:00–22:30)

Southeast Asia’s cultural humility vs. global visibility requirements

Why opportunities go to the most visible, not the best person

The cost of staying silent in today’s professional landscape

Breaking free from “let your work speak for itself” mentality

The YouDigital Origin Story (20:00–27:00)

The moment Ryan couldn’t not build something

From LinkedIn DMs to TikTok content in Bahasa Malaysia

The nine-month transformation of a bypassed professional

Expanding from Malaysia to inquiries from Botswana and Spain

Building While Employed (27:00–35:00)

Why Ryan didn’t quit his day job (and why that’s strategic)

The unfair advantage of financial stability while building

Transparency with managers and avoiding conflicts of interest

Choosing harmony over balance: “Balance is a trap”

Family Dynamics (35:00–47:00)

Honest conversations with his wife about opportunity costs

The end of weekly “Fridates” and adjusted holiday schedules

Raising a three-year-old while juggling two demanding roles

When your toddler crashes Zoom calls with enterprise clients

The Visibility Challenge (47:00–52:00)

“You don’t have to be loud to be powerful”

Leadership without a leadership title

The infrastructure of professional development in Southeast Asia

Cultural authenticity as competitive advantage

💬 Memorable Quotes

“The opportunities always go to not the best person but the person that’s most visible.”

“You shouldn’t try to aim for balance, right? Try to aim for harmony instead, because balance is a trap.”

“Hit that post button. Post something honest. Just post that being genuine and hit that button.”

⚡ Rapid Fire Insights

Biggest fear holding back SEA professionals: Fear of being visible before feeling 100% ready

Monthly question every professional should ask: “What do they want to be known for? And how are they showing up?”

Key mindset shift for side project builders: Don’t be a perfectionist – be comfortable with uncertainties and different seasons

One action to improve visibility this week: Hit publish on something honest and genuine

🔗 Resources Mentioned

YouDigital → youdigital.asia

Deel → Global HR tech unicorn valued at $12B

TikTok Content → Career advice in Bahasa Malaysia

Slush’D Penang → Where Kim and Ryan first connected

👤 Connect with Ryan Ng

YouDigital → youdigital.asia

LinkedIn → Ryan Ng LinkedIn Profile

📝 About Ryan Ng

Ryan Ng is a Southeast Asian thought leader in career and personal branding, with over 18 years of experience spanning Canon, LinkedIn, Deel, and now YouDigital. Followed by more than 35,000 on TikTok and widely recognised for his thought leadership on LinkedIn, Ryan makes career insights relatable, practical, and actionable for today’s talent.

Currently Founder & CEO of YouDigital, Ryan partners with universities, corporates, and government agencies to help students, founders, mid-careerists, and professionals build visibility and opportunity readiness. He also serves as an Adjunct Mentor at INTI, guiding design-thinking projects and mentoring the next generation of leaders.

Previously at LinkedIn, Ryan led public sector workforce programmes across Malaysia, working alongside government agencies to shape employability and economic growth strategies. At Deel, the world’s fastest-growing HR tech startup, he drove regional expansion across ASEAN, advising multinationals on global hiring and compliance.

Ryan has been a speaker at Slush’d Penang, AmCham, Taylor’s University, UiTM, MDEC, and TalentCorp events, and served as a panel judge for TalentCorp’s Life at Work Awards, underlining his commitment to strengthening Malaysia’s and ASEAN’s talent ecosystem.

Through his work, Ryan believes in a simple truth: the best opportunities don’t always go to the most qualified — they go to the most visible. His mission is to ensure Southeast Asians are not just ready for opportunities, but noticed and chosen. In a world where AI can replicate skills, the one thing it can’t replace is your brand.

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